Episodes

Thursday Jun 23, 2022
Aaron Sherwood - Romans
Thursday Jun 23, 2022
Thursday Jun 23, 2022
Episode: Matt discusses Romans with Aaron Sherwood, who has written a whopping huge Romans commentary. They discuss the book's rhetorical aims and literary flow, the troubling "hardening" of Israel in Rom 9-11, and why the real deal is in Romans 12-16.
Guest: Aaron Sherwood (Ph.D. Durham University) served as a biblical studies professor in Virginia, The Bahamas, and New York, between 2011-2016. Since then, he has been an independent researcher, an at-home father, and a part time administrative assistant at a legal firm. In addition to Romans: A Structural, Thematic, and Exegetical Commentary (Lexham: 2020), he’s the author of The Word of God has not Failed: Paul’s Use of the Old Testament in Romans 9:6–29 (Lexham, 2015), and Paul and the Restoration of Humanity in Light of Ancient Jewish Traditions (Leiden: Brill, 2012).
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Thursday Jun 02, 2022
Bill Brown - Psalms in Dialogue amidst Disruption
Thursday Jun 02, 2022
Thursday Jun 02, 2022
Episode: These are times of deep division and disruption. Saying so is almost as obvious as saying, "The sky is blue." But finding a way to dialogue through division and disruption is perplexing business, and can be dispiriting! However, the Psalms offer a profound model of holding tensions, diverse viewpoints, and conflicting ideas within one songbook, and also model creative dialogue with a wide range of Old Testament perspectives, so argues William P. Brown in his book Deep Calls to Deep: The Psalms in Dialogue Amidst Disruption (Abingdon, 2021). We discuss Psalms-as-dialogue and much more (including a discussion of the James Webb Space Telescope) in this episode!
Guest: William P. Brown is William Marcellus McPheeters Professor of Old Testament at Columbia Theological Seminary in Decatur, Georgia. Bill has published numerous books, including
- Deep Calls to Deep: The Psalms in Dialogue and Disruption (Abingdon, 2021).
- A Handbook to Old Testament Exegesis (WJK 2017)
- Sacred Sense: Discovering the Wonder of God’s Word and World (Eerdmans 2015)
- The Seven Pillars of Creation: The Bible, Science, and the Ecology of Wonder (Oxford 2010)
- Seeing the Psalms: A Theology of Metaphor (WJK 2002)
- The Ethos of the Cosmos: The Genesis of Moral Imagination in the Bible (Eerdmans, 1999)
- The Oxford Handbook of the Psalms (Oxford 2014)
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Thursday May 26, 2022
Amy Cottrill - Uncovering Violence in Biblical Stories
Thursday May 26, 2022
Thursday May 26, 2022
Episode: What happens to us as we read violent stories in the Bible? How do violent stories form us ethically? Amy Cottrill discusses everything from overly violent stories, to places where violence is "around the corner," about to emerge, to understand the complex moral reality of biblical stories. We discuss moral injury, violence against women, the tiresome performance of masculinity, immigration, and much more related to her recent book, Uncovering Violence: Reading Biblical Narratives as an Ethical Project (WJK).
Guest: Dr. Amy C. Cottrill is Denson N. Franklin Professor of Religion at Birmingham-Southern College. Her research focuses on Psalms, biblical representations of pain, suffering, and violence, and the ethics of biblical interpretation. She's the author of Language, Power, and Identity in the Lament Psalms of the Individual (T&T Clark) and Uncovering Violence: Reading Biblical Narratives as an Ethical Project (WJK).
Mentioned in this episode: Carol Newsom's article, "Bakhtin, the Bible, and Dialogic Truth", Jacqueline Lapsley's book, Whispering the Word: Hearing Women's Stories in the Old Testament (WJK), Rob Nixon's book, Slow Violence and the Environmentalism of the Poor (Harvard).
If you enjoyed this episode ... Listen to our interview with Caryn Reeder about her book on family violence and the Bible.
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Thursday May 19, 2022
Lisa Bowens - African American Readings of Paul
Thursday May 19, 2022
Thursday May 19, 2022
Episode: Dru and Erin chat with Lisa Bowens about her groundbreaking work on African American reception of the Pauline epistles from the early 18th to the mid-20th century. In her book, Lisa sets out to answer the question "What happens when African Americans are at the center of Pauline interpretation," and the results of her study are rich and rewarding. Join us for a conversation about this important book in the field of Pauline studies.
Guest: Lisa Bowens is Associate Professor of New Testament at Princeton Theological Seminary. Her first book, An Apostle in Battle: Paul and Spiritual Warfare in 2 Corinthians 12:1-10, published by Mohr Siebeck, is an apocalyptic reading of Paul's heavenly ascent. She is the author of numerous articles and chapters, including “God and Time: Exploring Black Notions of Prophetic and Apocalyptic Eschatology” in T&T Clark Handbook of African American Theology," “Painting Hope: Formational Hues of Paul’s Spiritual Warfare Language in 2 Corinthians 10-13,” in Practicing with Paul: Reflections on Paul and the Practices of Ministry in Honor of Susan G. Eastman," and “Spirit-Shift: Paul, the Poor, and The Holy Spirit’s Ethic of Love and Impartiality in the Eucharist Celebration,” in The Holy Spirit and Social Justice Interdisciplinary Global Perspectives: Scripture and Theology."
Book (from the publisher's website): The letters of Paul—especially the verse in Ephesians directing slaves to obey their masters—played an enormous role in promoting slavery and justifying it as a Christian practice. Yet despite this reality African Americans throughout history still utilized Paul extensively in their own work to protest and resist oppression, responding to his theology and teachings in numerous—often starkly divergent and liberative—ways.
In the first book of its kind, Lisa Bowens' book African American Readings of Paul takes a historical, theological, and biblical approach to explore interpretations of Paul within African American communities over the past few centuries. She surveys a wealth of primary sources from the early 1700s to the mid-twentieth century, including sermons, conversion stories, slave petitions, and autobiographies of ex-slaves, many of which introduce readers to previously unknown names in the history of New Testament interpretation. Along with their hermeneutical value, these texts also provide fresh documentation of Black religious life through wide swaths of American history. African American Readings of Paul promises to change the landscape of Pauline studies and fill an important gap in the rising field of reception history.
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Thursday May 12, 2022
Michael Gorman - Romans in Pastoral and Theological Perspectives
Thursday May 12, 2022
Thursday May 12, 2022
Episode: Michael Gorman, renowned Pauline scholar, has now penned a commentary on Romans. The commentary is for a diverse audience, including pastors and students. So OnScript co-host Matthew Bates, who is presently teaching a course on Romans, gets special assistance from his current students to ask Mike a smorgasbord of questions. Join us for this especially student friendly episode.
Guest: Professor Michael J. Gorman (Mike) has held the Raymond E. Brown Chair in Biblical Studies and Theology at St. Mary's Seminary and University since 2012. He has taught at St. Mary’s since 1991, first in St. Mary’s Ecumenical Institute and then, beginning in 1993, in both the Ecumenical Institute and the Seminary (School of Theology). From 1994 to 2012 he served as Dean of St. Mary’s Ecumenical Institute. He is a New Testament scholar who specializes in the theology and spirituality of the apostle Paul, the Gospel of John, the book of Revelation, and the theological and missional interpretation of Scripture. He is the author of nearly twenty books and numerous articles, including several volumes on Paul as well as works on Revelation, John, the atonement, Christian ethics, and biblical interpretation more generally. He's the author of numerous books, including the following:
- Romans: A Theological and Pastoral Commentary (Eerdmans, 2022)
- Elements of Biblical Exegesis: A Basic Guide for Students and Ministers, 3rd ed. (Baker Academic, 2020 [orig. 2001])
- Participating in Christ: Explorations in Paul’s Theology and Spirituality (Baker Academic, 2019)
- Abide and Go: Missional Theosis in the Gospel of John (Cascade, 2018)
- Apostle of the Crucified Lord: A Theological Introduction to Paul and His Letters, 2nd ed. (Eerdmans, 2017 [orig. 2001])
- Scripture and its Interpretation: A Global, Ecumenical Introduction to the Bible (editor; Baker Academic, 2017)
- Becoming the Gospel: Paul, Participation, and Mission (Eerdmans, 2015)
- The Death of the Messiah and the Birth of the New Covenant: A (Not So) New Model of the Atonement (Cascade, 2014)
- Reading Revelation Responsibly; Uncivil Worship and Witness; Following the Lamb into the New Creation (Cascade, 2011)
- Inhabiting the Cruciform God: Kenosis, Justification, and Theosis in Paul’s Narrative Soteriology (Eerdmans, 2009)
- Reading Paul (Cascade/Paternoster, 2008)
- Cruciformity: Paul’s Narrative Spirituality of the Cross (Eerdmans, 2001; 20th anniversary ed., 2021)
- Abortion and the Early Church: Christian, Jewish and Pagan Attitudes in the Greco Roman World (repr. Wipf and Stock, 1998; orig. InterVarsity and Paulist, 1982)
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If you enjoyed this episode ... Have a listen to an earlier episode with Dr. Gorman.

Thursday May 05, 2022
Reed Carlson - Possession and the Spirit in the Hebrew Bible
Thursday May 05, 2022
Thursday May 05, 2022
Episode: Matt talks with Reed Carlson about conceptions of the person in the Old Testament and Second Temple literature, and specifically, the significance of the spirit/Spirit when thinking about the self. We talk about farts, the medium of Endor, election, charismatic spirituality, God's character in the Old Testament, and much more related to his book Unfamiliar Selves in the Hebrew Bible: Possession and other Spirit Phenomena (DeGruyter, 2022).
Guest: Rev. Dr. Reed Carlson is Assistant Professor of Biblical Studies at United Lutheran Seminary. He’s active in the church, is ordained in the Episcopal Church, and is married to an ELCA minister. He’s the author of Unfamiliar Selves in the Hebrew Bible: Possession and other Spirit Phenomena (De Gruyter, 2022).
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Wednesday Apr 20, 2022
Karen O’Donnell - The Dark Womb: Reconceiving Theology Through Reproductive Loss
Wednesday Apr 20, 2022
Wednesday Apr 20, 2022
Episode: In this episode, co-host Amy Hughes talks with Karen O'Donnell about her new book, The Dark Womb: Reconceiving Theology Through Reproductive Loss. There are books that re-evaluate or re-imagine or re-invigorate theology, and then there are books that reveal theology’s silence, presumption, and lack and faces those problems head on. This book falls in the latter category - breaking the theological, liturgical, and pastoral around miscarriage, challenging certain articulations of doctrine of providence, and honestly appraising our practice of petitionary prayer.
Guest: Karen O’Donnell leads the research and teaching in Christian Spirituality at Sarum College, Salisbury, UK. She is a feminist, practical theologian with particular interest in the intersections of body and theology, especially around the issue of trauma. Her first monograph was Broken Bodies: The Eucharist, Mary and the Body in Trauma Theology (SCM Press, 2018) which explored the relationship between the body and trauma in theology. Her second monograph is The Dark Womb: Re-Conceiving Theology Through Reproductive Loss (SCM Press, 2022) which seeks to construct a fresh approach to theology using the experience of miscarriage as a starting point. Karen has published widely on trauma theology, Mariology, feminist theology, and digital theology.

Wednesday Apr 13, 2022
Justus Geilhufe - Gnade als trinitarisches Sein
Wednesday Apr 13, 2022
Wednesday Apr 13, 2022
Episode: In this episode Chris Tilling interviews Justus Geilhufe about his book, the Gnade als trinitarisches Sein: Bruce McCormacks Theologie in ihrer Entwicklung aus analytischer und konstruktiver Barthrezeption. Yes, I think this is our first interview about a German language book, but Geilhufe is up to the job and waxes lyrical in conversation with prose many English-only speakers would envy. In this rich episode, we explore Geilhufe’s original account of the development and driving themes of Bruce McCormack’s work, from Karl Barth’s Critically Realistic Dialectical Theology (1995), through “Grace and Being”, and the resultant controversies, to McCormack’s most recent work. It was a lot of fun to hear Geilhufe’s insights first-hand, and all we need now is someone who will commit to translating his book into English …
Guest: Rev. Dr. Justus Geilhufe, special student between 2012 and 2013, serves as an associate pastor at the Freiberg Cathedral in the Lutheran Church of Saxony. He was born in 1990 in Dresden. After graduating the Lutheran Kreuzschule he worked for one year at L’Arche in France. To pursue his call to being a pastor, he studied theology at Friedrich-Schiller-Universität Jena, Princeton Theological Seminary, Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München, and Universität Leipzig. Next to his diploma in theology, he also holds a BA in philosophy and a certificate in leadership from the Jesuit Munich School of Philosophy. While serving as an ordinand of the Lutheran Church of Saxony, he earned a doctorate in systematic theology from the Georg-August-University Göttingen with a dissertation on the theology of Princeton’s Charles Hodge Professor of Systematic Theology, Bruce McCormack. Justus is married and has two sons.
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Wednesday Apr 06, 2022
Wednesday Apr 06, 2022
Episode: This episode involves a rich discussion with Brittany Kim and Charlie Trimm about three book's they've written. We first discuss their co-authored book about the discipline of Old Testament theology, including the challenges of relating the two testaments and descriptive vs. normative theology. Then we discuss Brittany's book on Isaiah's familial and servant metaphors, including gendered language for God as well as the way that metaphors can help us wrestle with challenging prophetic texts. Finally, we talk about Charlie's recent work on approaches to violence in the Canaanite conquest, which maps some of the benefits and drawbacks to various proposals for mitigating the challenges of violence in Joshua. And there's much more here!
Guests: Dr. Brittany Kim is an Old Testament scholar, adjunct professor of Old Testament at North Park Theological Seminary and Northeastern Seminary, and she’s a spiritual director. She’s a co-director of Every Voice, an initiative for diversity in theological education. In addition to co-authoring the book Understanding Old Testament Theology: Mapping the Terrain of Recent Approaches (Zondervan, 2020) with Charlie Trimm, she’s the author of Lengthen Your Tent-Cords: The Metaphorical World of Israel’s Household in the Book of Isaiah (Eisenbrauns/PSU Press, 2018).
Dr. Charlie Trimm is Associate Professor of Biblical and Theological Studies at Biola University. In addition to co-authoring the book Understanding Old Testament Theology: Mapping the Terrain of Recent Approaches (Zondervan, 2020) with Brittany Kim, he's the author of The Destruction of the Canaanites: God, Genocide, and Biblical Interpretation (Eerdmans, 2022), Fighting for the King and the Gods: A Survey of Warfare in the Ancient Near East (SBL, 2017), and “YHWH Fights for Them!” The Divine Warrior in the Exodus Narrative (Gorgias: Piscataway, 2014). He’s also a co-director of Every Voice.
Every Voice - To access the bibliographies compiled by Every Voice, please click HERE.
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If you enjoyed this episode … listen in an earlier episode with Christian Hofreiter about his book Making Sense of Old Testament Genocide.

Friday Apr 01, 2022
Friday Apr 01, 2022
Episode: Have you ever longed for a biblically-rooted theology of child-rearing but didn't know where to turn? Prof. Ervine Sheblazm understands the pain that parents feel as they try to rear their offspring in a complex and troubling postmodernistic society. He wrote this book for Dave, his colleague, but Dave isn't the only one who will benefit. Sheblazm's biblically nuanced, scientifically-based approach will give parents, caregivers, grandparents, aunties, uncles, and others some practical, envliating, and spirtographal ways to care for our unruly ones. Sheblazm draws from the deep wells of scholarship and observational science to bring you what he calls "nuggets of truth." Even those without children will see the Bible and world in a new way.
Guest: Prof. Ervine Sheblazm feels like Einstein, Aristotle, Augustine, and Aquinas trapped in the same body.
Book: The endorsements say it all!
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